In a wide-ranging interview with Dr. Vikas Shah for Thought Economics, Colossal Co-Founder & CEO Ben Lamm discusses how de-extinction can reshape humanity’s relationship with nature—by pairing breakthrough science with public education and measurable conservation impact.
Key themes from the conversation
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Hope as a conservation strategy: Lamm argues that “doom and gloom” can shut people down—and that scientific progress must be communicated in ways that restore agency and curiosity.
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A three-part thesis (value + impact + inspiration): He describes aligning stakeholders around a long-term roadmap that creates near-term value while advancing biodiversity outcomes.
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Ethics “like an onion,” with clear boundaries: Lamm outlines layered decision-making, including explicit limits on what Colossal will and won’t work on.
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Animal welfare + independent oversight: He points to third-party welfare certification and external review as core safeguards for responsible innovation. (Related: Colossal’s oversight and review processes.)
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AI-integrated science: Lamm explains how AI supports work across ancient DNA assembly, comparative genomics, and conservation applications—accelerating timelines that would otherwise take decades.
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Read the full interview on Thought Economics.